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Char 2C Super-heavy tank

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Char 2C Super-heavy tank

Postby Goliath on Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:29 pm

The Char 2C (also known as FCM 2C) was a super-heavy French tank developed, although never deployed, during the First World War. The exact origins of this tank have long been shrouded in mystery. In the spring of 1918, less than three years after French tank development began, the French National Assembly tried to investigate its history, but they were unable to obtain even the most basic documents.

The Char 2C had a loaded weight of 69 tonnes, partly because of its amour - 45 mm at the front, 22 mm at the sides but much of it just because of its huge size. The amour was among the thickest of the WWI era tanks, though by modern standards this would be considered thin. Within its ample frame there was room for two fighting compartments. The first at the front, crowned by a three-man turret (the first in history) with a long 75 mm gun and the second at the back, topped by a machine gun turret. Both turrets had stroboscopic cupolas. The three independent 7.92 mm machine gun positions at the front gave protection against infantry assault.

The Char 2C is the only super-heavy tank ever to attain operational status (a super-heavy tank is not simply a tank that is very heavy but one that is much heavier than regular tanks of its period). To man the tank required a crew of twelve: driver, commander, gunner, loader, four machine gunners, mechanic, electrician, assistant-electrician/mechanic and a radio operator. Some sources report thirteen probably due to pictures of the crews that included the company commander.

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Postby CrazyCatman on Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:27 am

That is a lot of people for one tank. It looks like it could have been an impressive vehicle. You mention that it became operational, how many did?
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Postby Chris.Globe on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:28 pm

Hmmm, any of these in a museum anywhere? I wouldn't mind going looking for one of these!
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Postby Nullified Knight on Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:51 pm

CrazyCatman wrote:That is a lot of people for one tank. It looks like it could have been an impressive vehicle. You mention that it became operational, how many did?


The FCM Char 2C was developed as a heavy breakthrough vehicle in WW1. The order called for a vehicle that would span all German trenches. Two prototypes were built in 1917 and a series of ten vehicles was begun in 1918. By 1921, all ten were built. Initially numbered 1 to 10, they were later numbered and named as follows: #90 Poitou, #91 Provence, #92 Picardie, #93 Alsace, #94 Bretagne, #95 Touraine, #96 Anjou, #97 Lorraine (later renamed Normandie), #98 Berry, #99 Champagne. Originally, 300 tanks of this type were supposed to be built.

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Postby Hobilar on Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:00 am

Chris.Globe wrote:Hmmm, any of these in a museum anywhere? I wouldn't mind going looking for one of these!


Yes, there is one at the Bovington Tank Museum, Dorset

(While there also have a look at one of my favourite tanks-The mighty 'Independant')
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Postby Maximus the Destroyer on Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:10 pm

Hobilar wrote:(While there also have a look at one of my favourite tanks-The mighty 'Independant')


Hobilar, got any information on these?
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Re: Char 2C Super-heavy tank

Postby General Forestry on Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:53 am

I've always been curious about these early tanks from WW1. How effective would something like this be on the battlefield?
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Postby General Forestry on Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:54 am

Hobilar wrote:
Chris.Globe wrote:Hmmm, any of these in a museum anywhere? I wouldn't mind going looking for one of these!


Yes, there is one at the Bovington Tank Museum, Dorset

(While there also have a look at one of my favourite tanks-The mighty 'Independant')


I may be planning a trip to Europe sometime in the near future...you'll have to give me a list of military museums to visit Hobilar :D
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