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CrazyCatman · by **CrazyCatman** on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:55 am

I found this very interesting. I wasn't sure if I should put it here or in current events, but I figured it can be moved if needed.

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This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots=2 0of student loans.

I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this tr ip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York . It is at this time he wants everyone to call
him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York .

By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later, Obama entered < SPAN>Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama
purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008 (less than a MONTH ago), The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When ques tioned, 'he make a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!

AmericanPride · by **AmericanPride** on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:50 am

I have some concerns about this article...even though I don't really like the B.O....I really don't, I like taking a shower...(get the joke?)

I don't think this author has right to run-down Obama for his 'travel' time during college. There are lots and lots of students who travel during their college times, because money is not an issue to them and they figure they might as well do it now before they get held down by work and reality. I would also like them to do some research to see if there are any other politicians who come from low-class to middle-class families who attend Harvard Law school. I know there won't be many, but I guarantee there are...

Besides that, I do think he is a sneak and something is not right about this man.

However, there is another point I have to make here...

Colin Powell just made an enormous endorsement to BO. Powell is a true patriot to this country, and I feel betraying the country would tear him apart. He loves America, what it stands for and I feel he would do anything to make sure America stands for what it did over 200 years ago.

So I'm truly at a cross-roads now, I do not like Obama and I think he's a sneak. On the other hand, I don't think he would be that dumb to receive money from the middle east. In a country where the Media is God, that would have been leaked and released in a heart-beat and never would have been reversed.

Goliath · by **Goliath** on Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:48 pm

I'm going to try to hit these points one at a time, hopefully I don't get too carried away...

AmericanPride wrote:I don't think this author has right to run-down Obama for his 'travel' time during college. There are lots and lots of students who travel during their college times, because money is not an issue to them and they figure they might as well do it now before they get held down by work and reality.

That is one of the points, he says he comes from a low-middle class family so he can identify with the "common man" but I am a middle class American (and I wouldn't say low-middle class) but money WAS an issue for me in college. I would have liked to have gone traveling, but that just didn't fit in my budget, and since he was going to more expensive schools than me I'd say his definition of low-middle class is a little off.

AmericanPride wrote:I would also like them to do some research to see if there are any other politicians who come from low-class to middle-class families who attend Harvard Law school. I know there won't be many, but I guarantee there are...

I have to say I haven't done a lot of research into this, but what I did find is that within the last year or so Harvard has started an initiative that will allow middle class and high-middle class students the ability to afford to go to Harvard. That information being known, I'd have to say that even a decade ago it would have been nearly impossible for someone, without "connections", who was middle class, to be able to afford Harvard, let alone the low-middle class he claims.

AmericanPride wrote:Colin Powell just made an enormous endorsement to BO. Powell is a true patriot to this country, and I feel betraying the country would tear him apart. He loves America, what it stands for and I feel he would do anything to make sure America stands for what it did over 200 years ago.

That honestly doesn't surprise me, what does surprise me is that it took the Poster Boy of "Affirmative Action" this long to support an Affirmative Action Presidential hopeful. His comment in his speech shows he is a democrat anyway, The republican party being too far to the "right". If the republican party went any more left it would be the democratic party.

AmericanPride wrote:So I'm truly at a cross-roads now, I do not like Obama and I think he's a sneak. On the other hand, I don't think he would be that dumb to receive money from the middle east. In a country where the Media is God, that would have been leaked and released in a heart-beat and never would have been reversed.

What you have to consider though is that the country does consider the media God, but the media seems to consider Obama God. There are so many things that the media won't touch on, either because they don't want to or they are too afraid (and the latter one is what scares me most). As we've already seen with The New Yorker, any negative portrayal of Obama is responded to quickly, and harshly, effectively eliminating the Freedom of the Press. They conveniently forget to report that the Democratic Party is not even sure if he is eligible to be president.

Philip J. Berg, Esquire, of Pennsylvania filed a lawsuit on Thursday seeking a Declaratory Judgement and Injunction that Barack Obama does not meet the qualifications to become President of the United States. In the lawsuit Berg alleges that Obama is not eligible for the presidency because he is not a naturalized citizen, and/or lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia, and/or has duel citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg said that he has filed the suit on behalf of the Democratic Party and citizens of the United States for their best interests. Berg, an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, filed the lawsuit, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, in Federal Court.

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/6524

They also fail to mention his allegiances to other countries besides the U.S. (which may pose conflicts of interest).

You notice how quickly his anti-American acts and comments got covered up and how quickly his wife's comment about finally being proud to be an American, died off quickly (relitively). And where was the mass media when it was discovered that his Houston campaign office had a flag of Cuba hanging on the wall with none other than Che Guevara superimposed on it? http://www.yacrwb.org/2008/02/12/obamas-flag-issues/

General Forestry · by **General Forestry** on Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:08 pm

AmericanPride wrote:...Colin Powell just made an enormous endorsement to BO. Powell is a true patriot to this country, and I feel betraying the country would tear him apart. He loves America, what it stands for and I feel he would do anything to make sure America stands for what it did over 200 years ago...

I have to agree with this one here. Powell is a smart man and a PATRIOT.

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:15 pm

Forestry_manDCNR07 wrote:I have to agree with this one here. Powell is a smart man and a PATRIOT.

I tend to agree with you, but biases and other factors can sometimes cloud even the most brilliant. And lies and treachery can fool even the most patriotic.

CrazyCatman · by **CrazyCatman** on Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:09 pm

I found this comment by Biden very interesting as well...

At a fundraiser Sunday night, Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, said that after taking office, "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. ... We're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

He added that the Obama administration would need people to stand with it at the time because "it's not going to be apparent initially ... that we're right."

CNN

I wonder how he knows this? and what does he mean by a "generated crisis"? Generated by who?

AmericanPride · by **AmericanPride** on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:40 pm

WOAH! What kind of 'international crisis' is this wacko talking about?

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:09 pm

FDR was accused of letting the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor (supposedly he knew

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Bush was accused of being the mastermind behind the September 11 attacks (I find it humorous that the same people calling him the MASTERMIND behind 9/11 referred to him as a bumbling idiot

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Kennedy's assassination was supposedly a government conspiricy

I'm not really one for government Conspiracy Theories and "Cover-ups", but then again, I've never seen one of the "Conspirators" forecast the event ahead of time. Honestly, if it happens, this is one I think I could believe...

CrazyCatman · by **CrazyCatman** on Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:57 pm

Here is some more news about our "messiah"...

it appears that the Barack Obama campaign has gone over the top and a CNN report details that the campaign is thrilled that the stock market dropped over 500 points on Monday and they were hoping for the direst economic news possible.

While Americans were losing lots of value in their retirement plans and in their portfolios on Monday the Obama team was giddy according to CNN's Candy Crowley. Newsbusters notes that on Monday she confessed that Team Obama was happy as the stock market plunged.

Crowley said this, "I mean, (the drop in the stock market) is what (the Obama campaign) wanted. They believe, of course, that the economy is one of their strengths and that they can paint John McCain as George Bush." How wrong is that - cheering for economic woes for every day Americans so they can score cheap political points.

Source

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:57 pm

Wrong indeed.

Spazz Maticus · by **Spazz Maticus** on Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:58 pm

Along the same lines...

Having hauled in a record $208,333 every hour of every day last month -- $150 million in all -- plus a few more unreported millions so far this month, Barack Obama is worried that he might come up short in the political money war with the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket.

Just to relieve himself of that $150 million before the polls open, Obama will have to spend $12.5 million a day. But he needs some more.

Having now collected more than $605 million altogether, the freshman senator shows no concern over the appearance of buying the presidency. Imagine for a moment the national political conversation that could be going on now if rich Republicans had raked in that much loot for one campaign.

[url-http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/obama-money.html]Source[/url]

Obama better watch out or McCain might take a commanding lead with his federal fund limit that is 1/7th what Obama just can't seem to get enough of. I find it interesting that Obama can't seem to milk the people he was glad were losing everything in the stock market crash and bad economy enough.

Sure you have lost everything in this economy, and I have 7 times the funds of my opponent because I decided that I really don't have to do what I told the American people (I wonder if I will do anything I tell them), and I could never possibly spend all this money (maybe I'll just keep it for personal use, you know I'll have to decorate this house that came with this new position I just bought), but you know what, I need you to just bite the bullet, muscle up to the bar, and give me more of your hard earned money.

Hobilar · by **Hobilar** on Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:52 pm

YAWN!

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:35 pm

Great contribution Hobilar! If only I could make such insightful comments this forum would really take off.

Spazz Maticus · by **Spazz Maticus** on Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:41 pm

Hobilar wrote:YAWN!

Typical Barack Hussien Obama Supporter. I must congratulate you on your total apathy and disregard for the future of your ally. I sure hope that your attitude is not representative of all British, because, if it is, with allies like that, who needs enemies?

In a related note, I find it interesting that Obama supporters shrug off all of the disturbing things about him (the fact that he has multiple allegiances outside the U.S., the fact that he has obvious contempt for the U.S. (maybe that is why Hobilar likes him so much), his wonderful associations with terrorists and radicals, ect).

General Forestry · by **General Forestry** on Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:11 pm

OK. I have to put the foot down now, seeing how this could quickly get out of hand from recent posts on this thread

. Please refrain from posting any more on Hobilar's, Max's and Spazz's posts relating back to Hobilar's post. Anything other than that, you can post on. The only posts which should be made on this thread are those related to the topic!!

I also have to add on here, and this will go for the rest of the forum, that we need to start contributing to the topic with meaningful and related posts.

This will be a warning for EVERYONE. We have had these conversations in the past on 'jabs' and rulings for discussions. Hopefully, this will be the last time this happens.

CrazyCatman · by **CrazyCatman** on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:33 am

Technically, a decent sized portion of Spazz's last post does apply, can we still not reply to that?

General Forestry · by **General Forestry** on Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:17 pm

CrazyCatman wrote:Technically, a decent sized portion of Spazz's last post does apply, can we still not reply to that?

Yes, you can. Sorry to not include that portion of Spazz's post. I edited my last post so now there shouldn't be any confusion.

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:11 pm

You know, it's not that I think McCain is flawless, far from it, you just have to decide if you want an "old guy" who isn't articulate, and is the "Great Compromiser" or if you want a young guy with no background (at least no background you need to know about), has no loyalty to the U.S. (and even refuses to say the pledge or salute the flag), whose motto, Change, is the only thing consistent in his campaign, but is articulate enough to convince most people to do anything (He has already taken over the most vile and destructive weapon the U.S. has, the Media).

CrazyCatman · by **CrazyCatman** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:09 pm

Spazz Maticus wrote:Typical Barack Hussien Obama Supporter. [...] I find it interesting that Obama supporters shrug off all of the disturbing things about him (the fact that he has multiple allegiances outside the U.S., the fact that he has obvious contempt for the U.S. [...], his wonderful associations with terrorists and radicals, ect).

in a related note... Quotes of Obama supporters on news blogs...

Another pathetic attempt by the white person to keep the black person down. Soon Obama will be president and we will pillage and loot all of Uncle Whitey’s takings. You forget there are more of us poor than you rich and we won’t be swindled this time. In a decade or so when I’m rich I’ll vote for a Republican but for now since I’m poor I’m looking forward to getting my share of the pie.
Comment by Angry Black Man - October 29, 2008 @ 8:28 am

Rich? no. Don’t matter any way since Obama will follow the same path we did in the 1920’s and send us into a deep depression with his tax and spend ideas. We will all be lucky to have a job in a year. . .
Comment by JD - October 29, 2008 @ 3:07 pm

Wow, JD- the Boston Herald should fire Holly and hire you! You’ve managed to pre-blame Obama for our recession. However, this would play out better in 2010 than now. I hope Fox News is monitoring this site- you could be one of their new analysts.
Comment by Chi Chi Potatoe Queene - October 29, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

Problem with Chi Chi Potatoe Queene's reply is that he didn't blame Obama for the recession we are in, he used the historical reference from a previous (if not the last) time that all 3 branches were controlled by the democrats and postulated a future result based on the past results, but Obama supporters like to not listen to what critics say.

Obama '08, because senior citizens are all secret muslim terrorists. Pronounce AARP: doesn't that sound a little...Arab?

October 20, 2008 3:48 PM

Here is one of my personal favorites...

Anonymous said...

Shiiii, I beeb fo da Lordy Messiah Baraaak too. He beeb stealin moolah from da evel whitey man and gib it to da bruda and sistas fo slabery and fo Colonel Sanders stealin ourer best fried chicken recipes.My pooky sholonda be gettin mo affirma tiv axin so she can git into yell and habard over da hard workin whitey man and dem smart ass chinks.Like a good liberal Lordy baraaak heeb let all my fellow street pharmacists out of da big house and give them love and counseling instead. Shiii, so shout out to da messiah.Shazizzle.

October 21, 2008 1:01 AM

Now, consider the following...

Rev. Wright,
William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,
Tony Rezko,
Father Pfleger,
George Soros,
Raila Odinga,
ACORN,

Endorsements by:

Khalid al Mansour,
Hamas,
Louis Farrakhan,
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) which is associated with the Party of European Socialists (PES),

Or maybe a good reminder is his early mentor Mike Kruglik, the Saul Alinsky disciple who said (about Obama):

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives (the economy perhaps?), tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope (hmm, hope...where have I heard that before?) that they could make things better."

I do respect Colin Powell for his service to his country. With that said, maybe he can get Obama to furnish all the required documents for a security clearance respective to a possible President of the United States. When the Obama campaign DEMANDS John McCain's health records and Cindy's tax returns, shouldn't he (Obama) at least have to furnish a valid copy of his US birth certificate, if one even exists? Obama's hit squad is so powerful they can have his IL and US Senate schedule locked down, his voting record blocked (hiding all those present votes), they even got to Harvard. Harvard won't release his Sr. thesis. Yet, these are the same people that can have main stream media news crews outside a plumber's home ready to investigate and character assassinate at a moments notice. If this doesn't tell you something, I don't know what will.

As far as the wars go...let the commanding officers make the decisions. You know, the ones that are actually there!!! Tell Nancy, Harry, Barack and the rest of the congress to stay out of it!!! Surely Colin could appreciate that.

On to Economics. If you tax the big companies to death (he’s gonna raise taxes substantially) then they will do one of two things… They will leave the country to do their business like most already have or they will simply pass their tax costs down to you, the employee and the consumer. Either way the "regular American" pays.

Maximus the Destroyer · by **Maximus the Destroyer** on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:59 pm

Hmmm... As far as the quote from the mentor... I'm not sure how that helps your case... The quote basically says, if I understand it right, basically he is a great speaker who can find what is the problem and get people to fix it themselves.

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